If you want to claim that modern tests of intelligence cannot actually test intelligence – you’re basically a putz. However, just for the sake of argument – lets ignore verifiable, repeatable, reality…..Because you know, dropping an item multiple times onto the ground doesn’t suggest the existence of gravity…. I hope you can see how detrimentally stupid this position actually is with that above statement.
Let’s move past the multitude of studies on IQ, which took place on multiple continents across the educated and uneducated. Let’s ignore all of that…. Wipe it from your mind.
Let us go back to history.
Now, if Group Q is, on average, as intelligent as group P: than group Q should in fact technologically develop at the same rate as group P. Particularly if both groups have access to resources and are left isolated from each other for vast periods of time.
This all make sense, yes?
Well, when the British empire fought the Zulu wars: the Brits used cannons and personal firearms. They fought using weapons which included mass produced steal and chemically propelled projectiles. Wearing mass produced clothing to include chemically treated cured leathers and industrial mechanical loom produced cloth.
The Zulus, on the other hand. Went to war against the Brits with short spears, knives, clubs, cowhide shields and garments made only from animal hides. In fact, the Iron spear attributed to having been created by Shaka Zulu himself, a remarkably well designed melee weapon of which I personally am a fan of, was out classed, technologically, by the iron swords of the first emperor of China, Qin Shi Huang, circa 259 BCE – 210 BCE.
Examining the stone age subsistence of the Zulu Kingdom, they had no woven fabrics, no kiln hardened ceramics, no tool worked stone buildings, no machines involving levers or pulleys, no industrialized agriculture, no geometric mathematics, on and on and on. All of which Ancient Greece had by around 1,000 BCE.
In Example, There is evidence that ancient Greece engaged in industrialized agriculture, as an economic venture, as early as 7,000 BCE. Tool worked stone buildings such as the first Megaron home at Sesklo, in central Greece is dated to around 5,700 BCE. For the sake of good will, I am going to ignore the above individual technological developments, some of which would DOUBLE the technological gap described moving forward.
Were I to be far more acutely honest, I would tally up the technological achievements and place a mathematical average between them, which would drastically increase the tech-gap between the two. So moving forward, out of the goodness of my heart, because I’m such a nice guy: I will place the Zulu’s technology at the end of the Stone Age and the European’s at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, to minimize the technological gap as much as I can without being a blatant liar as to the disparity. Even this gap, minimizing it as I am, extends past simply being “charitable” toward the Sub Saharan Africans and into the realm of being “dishonest”.
Group P, the Brits, were engaged in the Industrial revolution.
Group Q, the Zulu’s, were firmly still inside the confines of the stone age.
The stone age, according to most timelines, as it sits now (subject to change), is recorded as being around 2,500 BC when it ended. The industrial revolution was between 1750 to 1900.
Group P: had technologically developed, in isolation from group Q, some 4,250 years beyond and in advance of group Q, if one accounts for the end of the stone age to the beginning of the industrial revolution: which, specifically minimizes the technological gap as much as possible, favoring Group Q as having as little gap as possible.
Group Q, the Zulu Nation: was the largest and most advanced Kingdom in Sub Saharan Africa at the time of the Zulu Wars.
So….. when it comes to “race realism” and “IQ is genetic” – it is not *MY* side of the issue which needs to be proven. You understand? The largest and most advanced kingdom in sub saharan africa was 4,250 years behind the technological development of the military force which they faced in the Zulu wars.
This is factual reality. Guns and cannons verses cowhide shields and short spears. This is factual reality.
It is actually upon the naysayers – to convince —-> ME <—- why, by what rationale, by what logic, by what deduction, by what reason: I should ignore factual reality. It is upon *your side* to provide this argument. It is not – only – studies – on – intellect: which you are dealing with.
So even if we completely ignore all studies on IQ, set them aside and pretend they don’t exist: how can group Q (Zulus – sub saharan africans) be as intelligent as group P (Brits – white europeans) when, in spite of both groups having access to natural resources and developing in isolation of each other, group P (Brits – white europeans) had technologically advanced beyond group Q (Zulus – sub saharan africans) by at least 4,250 years at the time of their conflict?
It is upon *your side* to provide this argument.
Let me put this in another light for you, so you can see things from my perspective.
Alien Species X from world G attained sentience at the same time as homo erectus on Earth. Species X from world G technologically develops 4,250 years past our greatest technological achievements here on earth. Species X from world G traverses space long distance, invades and conquers Earth using weapons and technology that is 4,250 years more advanced than our own weapons and technology.
Do we pretend that homo sapien sapiens are *AS* intelligent as Alien Species X when Alien Species X is no OLDER than homo sapien sapiens, but has technologically developed 4,250 years in advance of homo sapien sapiens?
That is how clearly I view the topic. From my perspective, it is that simple.
I’m not even alt-right: I’m a Capitalist Libertarian, the Alt-Right, to include the minority of actual nazi national socialists who self identify as alt right: are all on my political left.
I simply cannot evade factual reality: and I wish you wouldn’t, but you seem determined to do so.
From my perspective you all seem absurdly irrational: because none of this means anything. If Whites are, on average, smarter than blacks: so what? Asians are, on average, smarter than whites. Ashkenazi jews are, on average, smarter still.
So – what?
I support the establishment of a Rule of Law which provides complete equality before the law: equal rights, equal protections and equal punishments. That no one person is permitted to be infringed upon by any other person or group there of, which includes infringement by the State. A law in which civil liberties, personal liberties and human rights are sacrosanct.
Here’s the banner which adorns my twitter, minds and youtube pages.
A full throttle no holds bared statement that all people regardless of any identity of any kind should be treated equally under the law with no special treatment of any kind be it negative or positive.
No second class citizens, no special privileges, no special protections. Everyone treated equally before the law and their individual rights / civil liberties protected BY the law: against the malevolence of others or even against the state itself.
It doesn’t GET any more classical liberal than this. This is the essence of the greatest political and moral philosophers of western civilization boiled down into a single opus that the rights of the individual are sacrosanct and everyone within society should be protected or punished equally by the same code of law.
The above taken from my about page.
People are people regardless of their IQ and we should have a system of law which provides equal protections and punishments under that system of law. People should still have equal rights: no special protections, no special exemptions.
The argument in and of itself, from my perspective…
Means – precisely: dick.
From where I sit: I see one group arguing for the acceptance of factual reality, and the other group desperately attempting to evade reality.
Over a topic which is so ridiculously trivial as to be utterly inconsequential.
Aaahhhh – but see there. Do you see how inconsequential the issue is once I’ve laid it for you? So why then, is it such a fantastic spectacle? The inconsequentiality of the topic is the key to understanding why it’s made into a grand spectacle.
It is the leftist side of the argument that there is no such thing as objective truth, that which can be verified and proven, truth is white supremacy.
If that smacks of 1984 and makes your stomach sink, it’s with good reason.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right. The obvious, the silly and the true had got to be defended. Truisms are true, hold on to that! The solid world exists, its laws do not change. Stones are hard, water is wet, objects unsupported fall towards the earth’s centre. With the feeling that he was speaking to O’Brien, and also that he was setting forth an important axiom, he wrote: Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”
Orwell, George. 1984 (p. 81). Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. Kindle Edition.
It is the leftist side of the argument that meritocracy, is white supremacy.
You think that’s a one off of one University skewing towards insanity? Think again.
You could respond to me “But those are both from campus Reform, that could simply be a biased source.
And lastly, “Dispelling the Meritocracy Myth: Lessons for Higher Education and Student Affairs Educators”, a paper written by Lorriz Anne Alvarado. Available directly from the University of Vermont educational website at the following location PDF location.
“Dispelling the Meritocracy Myth: Lessons for Higher Education and Student Affairs Educators”
PDF Location found here.
It is the leftist position: that truth is white supremacy and that meritocracy is also a myth or a form of white supremacy. The leftist stated position and basic philosophical tenet is that all persons, regardless of race or gender, are essentially identical. No one person is naturally smarter than another, no person is naturally stronger than another, no person is naturally more creative than another, etc. etc.
All human bodies are identical and interchangeable. Therefore, claim the leftists, any possible distinction between them must be the result of some kind of oppression. Some form of prejudice which only need to be discovered so that it can be removed and then all persons regardless of race, religion or gender would be identical.
If there is some form of oppression and prejudice and supremacy to fight: the leftists can then advocate for hiring quotas, gender and race based discrimination.
Such as the various examples I have written and spoke about previously.
On and on and on…
This is why Leftists argue against the existence of truth, against the concept of meritocracy and against the concept of there being any relation between race and IQ. If they cede these arguments, they will lose the ability to advocate for race, ethnic or sex based discrimination. This is also why the Alt-Right and others on the right: all argue in favor of the factual reality of racial, ethnic and gender differences.
In order to disarm the leftists and expose them for being racist, sexist, hypocrites who’s true motivations are giving alms and favors to this or that atomized, supposedly oppressed group, in exchange for partisan devotion and thereby positions of power and authority.
Examine the difference in effect.
Where a leftist would argue that humans are identical and interchangeable, they argue this in order to use this philosophical fallacy as a cudgel with which to brandish and demand that race and sex based discrimination be made legal.
For my part: I argue, as I did above….
“I support the establishment of a Rule of Law which provides complete equality before the law: equal rights, equal protections and equal punishments. That no one person is permitted to be infringed upon by any other person or group there of, which includes infringement by the State. A law in which civil liberties, personal liberties and human rights are sacrosanct.
No second class citizens, no special privileges, no special protections. Everyone treated equally before the law and their individual rights / civil liberties protected BY the law: against the malevolence of others or even against the state itself.”
My position, is exactly what the leftists do not want: my position is utterly antithetical to the leftists goals.
More over, the leftists are playing a con game with everyone in absolute all of those above denunciations of meritocracy. While the leftists are quick to point out that whites have a greater median income than blacks or Latinos – they never mention that Asians have a greater median income than whites. More over, Jews within the United States have the single highest median income of any racial of ethnic group.
I.E. Bernie Sanders, a Jewish “Democratic Socialist” himself, who is part of the “top 1%”.
It was after it was pointed out that Bernie himself was part of the top 1%, that he stopped saying in speeches and interviews “The top 1%” and instead began saying “The top 1/10th of 1%”. In case you were wondering, that’s why, just for future references.
For a Nation supposedly over flowing with white supremacy… The fact that Asians and Jews earn more than whites is ardently contradictory to the presupposed supposition that the USA is ever so thoroughly white supremacist, now isn’t it?
Let’s have a look see at the median income by race, shall we?
PDF Location found here.
I notice something odd, Jews are conspicuously missing from the graph… oh well, we’ll just have to ignore that for now.
Let’s compare that to IQ, hm?
This publication shows the result of The IQ Studies, SAT scores, ACT scores, NAEP scores, TIMMS and PISA scores for the past 35 years. The data breaks down as follows…
Asians 103.3 (103.26)
Whites 100 (100)
Hispanics 90 (89.75)
Blacks 85 (85.8)
Doesn’t that look familiar? Let’s do a screen cap comparing the two….
That’s right kids… the median income by race exactly matches the median IQ by race….
Now…. lets examine that one group which was suspiciously absent from both the census data and the IQ data….
BEFORE you jump to conclusions about alt-right neo nazi blah blah blah blame duh jews propaganda: I’m ONLY going to use information taken from pro-jewish publications. So you don’t GET the luxury of claiming that I’m using antisemitic propaganda.
“Jews are the highest-earning religious group in the United States, with 46 percent of the working population earning a six-digit figure every year, according to a study released this week. In terms of annual earnings, the only other group to even come close to the average Jewish income was the Hindus, with 43 percent earning over $100,000. No other group reached even the 30 percent mark, and the overall US average was only 18 percent earning six-figure digits annually. The study, conducted by the Pew Forum on Religious and Public Life, also showed that, after Hindus, the Jews were the second most educated religious group in the US. “
Given that 46% of Jews make at least $100,000, that puts Jews at the absolute top earning bracket in median incomes. I’m going to label Jews as an estimated 100k because we have no detailed data on how FAR above 100,000 their incomes are, we only know that almost half of them make over $100k per year. Let’s add Jews to the previous cited racial median income line up, shall we?
Next…. Jewish IQ….
“While the average IQ of Europeans is 100, the average Jew of European descent earns an IQ score of 107.5 to 115, making an Ashkenazi Jew almost 6 times as likely to be a genius as a non-Jewish European. In a 2005 paper published by Cochran and Harpending entitled “Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence”, the pair notes “During the 20th century, [Jews] made up about 3% of the US population but won 27% of the US Nobel science prizes and 25% of the ACM Turing awards. They account for more than half of world chess champions.“
Well now, again, another pro-jewish publication which cannot be claimed to be antisemitic propaganda.
So Jews are are not only the highest earning group in the United States, but also have the highest IQ in the united states. Let’s add Jews to the previous cited racial IQ line up, shall we?
Jews 107 (107-115)
Asians 103.3 (103.26)
Whites 100 (100)
Hispanics 90 (89.75)
Blacks 85 (85.8)
Let’s contrast and compare the new median income with median IQ, having entered the data provided by The Jerusalem Post and Israel National News: shall we?
That’s right kids. From Blacks to Jews: median income perfectly matches average group intelligence. Still think meritocracy is a myth? Or do you now understand why, for the leftists to be able to push their pro-discrimination agenda, they have to denounce the concept of meritocracy and exclaim that there are no differences between racial groups?
More over, while leftists will rail on and on about how much better whites are doing than blacks or Hispanics: they’ll neglect to mention Asians and Jews. You see, if Asians and Jews are out performing and out earning Whites: it shatters the claim that America is a nation over flowing with white supremacy.
There you have it kids. This is why the race IQ issue is turned into a grand spectacle. It’s because the leftists want to be able to assert their ideology, which is contrary to reality, in order to enact legalized discrimination in favor of “minority” or supposedly “oppressed” groups: in exchange for partisan devotion from said groups. That is what provides them with positions of political power.
In order to accomplish this: the leftists absolutely must decree that there is no such thing as truth, meritocracy is a myth, there are no racial differences and absolutely all discrepancies among groups are the result of white supremacy and white prejudice…. NEVERMIND the Asians or the Jews! Don’t look over there, don’t pay attention to them and don’t look behind that curtain!!